Bay Ridge, Brooklyn

The Circumferential Line is proposed to begin in Bay Ridge, where the LIRR Bay Ridge Freight Line has a lighterage dock along the Brooklyn waterfront.

Pier 4 Ferry

Although the proposals for the transit line seem to have it terminating in the Bay Ridge rail yard, it might make sense to extend it just a few hundred feet further to wrap around the back (west side) of the Brooklyn Army Terminal and connect with the ferry landing on Pier 4. Maps show that there were tracks extending to the Army Terminal Piers and with some upgrade and electrification, they'd be good to go.

While the current NY Water Taxi service is completely directed at commuters with a very limited number of runs in the morning and afternoon, addition of a station from the Circumferential Line would make it more readily accessible to a large number of new, potential riders that wouldn't mind shaving a few minutes off their commute to downtown Manhattan. The long-term end result could be similar to what happens now with the South Ferry (1 train) connection to the Staten Island Ferry in Battery Park on the southern tip of Manhattan.

West side of the Brooklyn Army Terminal
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West side of the Brooklyn Army Terminal
58th Street to Pier 4 Ferry
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58th Street to Pier 4 Ferry
Pier 4
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Pier 4
Pier 4 Ferry parking
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Pier 4 Ferry parking
Small wind generator on Pier 4
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Small wind generator on Pier 4
Small wind generator on Pier 4
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Small wind generator on Pier 4
Wind generator light and reverse power meter
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Wind generator light and reverse power meter
Wind generator power rack - www.altpower.com
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Wind generator power rack - www.altpower.com

Bay Ridge Rail Yard / 65th Street Ferry Pier

When the Bay Ridge Line was built in 1876, this was a busy passenger ferry terminal connecting Bay Ridge to lower Manhattan, which was then the heart of New York City. Passenger service ended on the Bay Ridge line in 1924, although this remained a yard for the freight line. The yard was abandoned during the 1980s and 1990s before being renovated and reopened in 1999 as a storage, switching, and intermodal transfer yard.

The yard is also used by rail cars that are floated across the bay by the New York Cross Harbor Railroad, which uses the old Bush Terminal carfloat apron at the foot of 50th Street to the north and brings the cars down First Avenue and through the Brooklyn Army Terminal to the 65th Street Yard. The NYCH had a plan in the late 1990s to move their operations to the 65th Street yard and rebuilt the 65th Street floatbridges to handle the larger railcars being used at the time. However, the move never took place and the floatbridges at 65th Street remained unused.

There has been a proposal in the works for a number of years to dig a new freight rail tunnel under New York harbor to connect the Greenville Branch in Jersey City to the Bay Ridge line. Rail cargo from the south and west currently must either be offloaded to trucks in New Jersey (further clogging NYC's roads and bridges) or sent further up the river to the closest Hudson River crossing at Selkirk. The eastern portal of the tunnel would be to the west of the Bay Ridge Yard, probably between 8th and 13th Avenues.

Consideration has also been given to a tunnel that would provide a subway connection to Staten Island.

Bay Ridge rail yard (unused float bridges in the distance)
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Bay Ridge rail yard (unused float bridges in the distance)
Bay Ridge rail yard
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Bay Ridge rail yard
Tracks from the Bay Ridge rail yard into the Brooklyn Army Terminal
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Tracks from the Bay Ridge rail yard into the Brooklyn Army Terminal
Brooklyn Army Terminal - viewed from the Bay Ridge rail yard
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Brooklyn Army Terminal - viewed from the Bay Ridge rail yard
Row houses on 58th Street just east of the rail yard
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Row houses on 58th Street just east of the rail yard
On-ramp to Belt Parkway, south of the rail yard
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On-ramp to Belt Parkway, south of the rail yard
On-ramp to Belt Parkway
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On-ramp to Belt Parkway
Belt Parkway
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Belt Parkway
Belt Parkway
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Belt Parkway
Belt Parkway
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Belt Parkway

Given the waterfront isolation away from residential property (or potentially developable property), a better western terminus for the Circumferential Line might be under Towers of Bay Ridge, a group of oddly out-of-character high-rise residential buildings built in 1972. The parking lot for the buildings was built on a platform over the Bay Ridge Line tracks and there is probably space under the platform for a station of some kind.

Rails passing under Second Avenue
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Rails passing under Second Avenue
Towers of Bay Ridge
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Towers of Bay Ridge
Towers of Bay Ridge
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Towers of Bay Ridge
Towers of Bay Ridge
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Towers of Bay Ridge
Towers of Bay Ridge parking deck over rail tracks
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Towers of Bay Ridge parking deck over rail tracks
Towers of Bay Ridge
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Towers of Bay Ridge

Also running in the right-of-way is a pipeline (run by Buckeye Pipeline) which carries jet fuel from Linden, N.J., to John F. Kennedy Airport.

Stairway down to tracks
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Stairway down to tracks
Stairway down to tracks
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Stairway down to tracks
On-ramp to Gowanus Distressway
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On-ramp to Gowanus Distressway
68th Precinct - 66th Street
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68th Precinct - 66th Street
Gowanus Expressway
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Gowanus Expressway
Tracks headed east under the Gowanus Expressway
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Tracks headed east under the Gowanus Expressway
Leif Ericson Park - south of tracks off 66th Street
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Leif Ericson Park - south of tracks off 66th Street
Leif Ericson Park
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Leif Ericson Park
Leif Ericson Park
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Leif Ericson Park
Leif Ericson Park
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Leif Ericson Park
Gowanus Expressway crossing 6th Ave. - 6th Ave crosses tracks just past the expressway
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Gowanus Expressway crossing 6th Ave. - 6th Ave crosses tracks just past the expressway
Robert Moses' autocentric dreamscape
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Robert Moses' autocentric dreamscape

The BMT Sea Beach Line (N train) also used to terminate at the 64th Street Ferry pier and when the 4th Avenue BMT (N/R train) was built in 1915, the interconnection of the two lines allowed trains coming from the north to fork at 66th street (just east of the Bay Ridge rail yard) with the R train proceeding south into Bay Ridge proper and the N train headed east and then south to Coney Island.

The BMT Sea Beach Line shares the rail ROW (on separate tracks) with the Bay Ridge Line between 4th Avenue and 14th Avenue. Presumably, the Circumferential Line would just use the existing BMT tracks for this portion of its run to save construction costs, although there might be some congestion issues at rush hour.

The streets to the north of the tracks are largely devoted to commercial activity, much of it by Chinese businesses.

Rail ROW viewed from 5th Ave. bridge looking east - BMT subway on the left, freight rail line on the right
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Rail ROW viewed from 5th Ave. bridge looking east - BMT subway on the left, freight rail line on the right
Rail ROW viewed from 5th Ave. bridge
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Rail ROW viewed from 5th Ave. bridge
Fifth Avenue retail district just north of rail line
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Fifth Avenue retail district just north of rail line
China Perfect Iron and Stainless - 525 63rd St.
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China Perfect Iron and Stainless - 525 63rd St.
Bay Ridge Live Poultry - 551 63rd St.
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Bay Ridge Live Poultry - 551 63rd St.
Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center - 6224 Sixth Ave.
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Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center - 6224 Sixth Ave.
Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center
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Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center
Beit El-Maqdis - ladies entrance
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Beit El-Maqdis - ladies entrance
Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center tower
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Beit El-Maqdis Islamic Center tower
MTA signal house at Sixth Ave.
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MTA signal house at Sixth Ave.
Sixth Ave. bike lane
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Sixth Ave. bike lane
Rail lines proceed east from Sixth Ave.
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Rail lines proceed east from Sixth Ave.
K.K. Live Poultry? - 6221 Seventh Ave.
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K.K. Live Poultry? - 6221 Seventh Ave.
Ming Gee Seafood Palace
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Ming Gee Seafood Palace
Fiber optic sign
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Fiber optic sign
Commercial space on 61th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues
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Commercial space on 61th Street between 6th and 7th Avenues
Where bamboo shoots come from
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Where bamboo shoots come from
Storage rooms on 61th Street
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Storage rooms on 61th Street